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IMUSA Committee Meeting at O'Briens Stretford 21/9/00

Agenda

Summer Update - Hooligan Legislation
Summer Update - Standing
Fans Forum Vote First Round
Match Tickets
Fans Forum Vote Second Round
Newsletter
Fans Forum Result and IMUSA Agenda
Tier 2
Youth
AOB

Summer Update - Hooligan Legislation

IMUSA were approached on numerous occasions over the summer to comment on the Hooligan legislation pushed through by the Government. IMUSA made the points that this was knee jerk legislation and there are worrying powers for the Police in the law.

As a result of the high profile enjoyed by IMUSA, Andy Walsh has been asked to join a working party convened by Lord Basham. The working party would seem to have a wide ranging remit but not all the details are out yet and they seem very reluctant to confirm the other participants. We do know that representatives of the FSA, Nat. Fed., Police, FA, and PFA have been invited.

The first meeting of this group is scheduled to be 29 September, in Manchester. Andy is pushing for it to be an open meeting.

Summer Update - Standing

The issue of standing reared its head again as Trafford Borough Council made it's announcement about how it would close parts of the ground if standing was a persistent issue again. Mark Longden attended the last meeting of the Council's Safety Committee, which had representation from the Council and the Club. It was felt that the attitude of the Council was being governed by advice that they, as the licensing authority, would be sued if someone was injured whilst standing.

Barry Brotherton from the Council said that if the Government were so minded then they would be willing to participate in a trial of safe standing. The Council also expressed an interest in having a permanent fan representative on committee. As this couldn't be a fan affiliated to a local club IMUSA has proposed Tim Crabbe from the FSA.

IMUSA is looking to give support to a Blue, Phil Guttenly, who is running a safe standing at Eastlands campaign. An article from him will appear in the next newsletter.

Fans Forum Vote First Round

The voting procedure was explained as follows. Everyone would have one vote in the first round the winner only being declared if they received more than 50% of the vote. Otherwise the top two candidates from the ballot would go forward to the second round where it would be a simple who go the most.

The candidates were briefly introduced and given the opportunity to add anything that they wanted, which they didn't. Adam Brown who conducted the ballot distributed voting papers to all present. Adam circulated collecting papers as people finished deliberation, and retired to count.

Match Tickets

A number of issues were raised regarding tickets.

The first was regarding away matches and any disparity between home and away fans ticket prices. A project was set up to gather information on this, Rob Wilson and John Wroe were designated as the persons responsible.

As regards tickets at Old Trafford it appears that there are a number of anomalies that could usefully be sorted out. For instance there are no Junior Season Tickets in Tier 2 of the Stretford End. OAP concessions are still not universally available on a consistent basis. Hospitality packages are available for every home game. It was decided that Adam Brown would write to the club pointing out the anomalies and oddities.

Fans Forum Vote Second Round

It was announced that Mike Adams and Dave Kirkwood had come top in the ballot and a second round of voting would take place. This was again conducted by Adam Brown.

Newsletter

The next newsletter was going to the printers over the weekend of 30 September. It would be being stuffed and mailed on 7 and 8 October.

Shareholders United wanted to put a small piece in the newsletter about the cheap share purchase scheme that they had set up.

Duncan Drasdo wanted to mail out for the Standing Order scheme that had been devised. The only problem with that was that there are still problems with the members database and specifically renewal dates. It was determined that Mark Southee, Duncan Drasdo, Nick Clay and Dave Kirkwood would look at the best way to resolve this and mail out specific forms to specific individuals.

Fans Forum Result and IMUSA Agenda

Dave Kirkwood was announced as the winner of the ballot and the floor was opened to discuss what IMUSA's agenda should be.

It was decided that the first priority should be in building bridges to the other members of the forum.

Both Dave Kirkwood and John Wroe were to be passed a copy of Adam Brown's original paper to the club on the Fans' Forum.

To give the club a quick win for the Forum it was suggested that a proposal be put forward about concessionary tickets for the Worthington Cup.

Other issues to bring up were identified as: ticketing structure and policy; democratisation of the Forum; more meetings for the Forum; open Forum meetings and; Juniors.

Tier 2

Dave Kirkwood reminded everyone about the letter received last Spring about the possibility of extending the "Fanzone" all the way down the Stretford End. It was suggested that we write to the club and pass on the favourable comments that have been received about Tier 2 and raise this question. It was also suggested that we remind the club of their announcement about a trial for unreserved seating at European Games. It was decided that this needed a bit more thought and would be revisited at the next meeting.

On the matter of flags on Tier 2 Tom Cusack told the meeting that after Phil Bedford's experiences he had written on behalf of IMUSA to the club. The letter had pointed out the contradictions of what had happened and urged the club to reconsider. The letter also requested a comprehensive set of guidelines that could be published so everyone knew where they were.

Youth

Dave Kirkwood noted that the people attending meetings were getting older and there was no young blood coming through. It was suggested that we specifically invite some juniors to the first open meeting we have. Also we should try and invite them if we get a pre-match meeting organised.

AOB

Andy Walsh said that both Peter Kenyon and Ryan Giggs had accepted invites to come to open meetings. He was trying to get both to attend before Christmas.

Date of Next Meeting
12 October 2020.

 


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